Description: 78 (80) RPM 10": Edison 51137 - 1923 Release L-Side: Atlantic Dance Orchestra - Saw Mill River Road (The Same Old Story)R-Side: Karlan's Melodists - You Tell Her - I Stutter Comments: Just in case you are unaware, I want to mention that Edison discs will be damaged if not played on the special equipment required. They can't be safely played using your standard 78 record player's stylus.Since I don't have the means to play Edison Records I can only tell you and show you what it looks like. I gave the playing surfaces a preliminary cleaning with a few passes of 91% isopropyl alcohol on cotton balls. You may want to finish the job.The matrix numbers etched in the runout are 8843-C-2-5 (R-side) and 8839-C-5-4 (L-side).Record Condition (For the Eyes): The VJM grade is E-. There is pretty good gloss visible at the current level of clean and that may improve with further cleaning. There are some light surface scuffs and some stains. There are a few small edge flakes outside of the play area. Please closely examine the many photos provided and zoom in to get the condition details.Record Condition (For the Ears): No play-test was possible. This record is offered with visual grading only.Sound Sample: No sound sample could be provided.Labels Condition: The L-side label looks pretty good with light wear and a little paper worn/missing. The R-side label is missing quite a bit of paper. The paper missing at the top and at the left bottom edge was gone when I acquired the record. When I pulled the record out of the sleeve recently a smaller section of label paper caught on the sleeve and tore off. (It is just sitting in place for the photo.) Another tiny piece fell off after the photo was taken. I preserved the pieces of label that fell off during my handling in case you want to glue them back in place. Use care when handling because the bottom part of that R-side label is loose and could snag on something again. There is some writing in the index number area on the L-side label.Sleeve Type and Condition: Housed in a heavy, brand new white paper sleeve. I took the record out of the gold kraft-paper sleeve that it was in when I found it in favor of a smoother sleeve that might not catch the R-side label as easily as the old sleeve. Please see the photos for more info and a look at condition. Use your zoom-in powers for a real close look.Shipping Notes: I'm an expert record packer, if I do say so myself! Rest assured that I know what I'm doing when it comes to packing shellac records for safe shipping.A word on costs for safely shipping shellac 78 RPM records: They are fragile and easily breakable. (You know that!) If shipped in packaging that would be perfectly safe for a vinyl record, the chance of breakage is pretty good. I pack shellac 78's in an oversize box. The record is sandwiched between custom corrugated cardboard pads. The padded record is wrapped in bubble wrap for shock absorption. The whole bundle is surrounded by other padding such as wadded newspaper, packing peanuts and/or air pillows for a safe journey through the postal system. Proper packing materials cost me a bundle per package and the costs keep going up. On top of that, another pile of money is needed to buy the USPS media mail postage. Shipping costs are very real and add up to more than most people realize. It might not be apparent to you, but the amount that I ask you to pay for shipping is actually less than what it actually costs me to ship a record. It may be easier to find what you're interested in if you browse by Store Category in my Ebay Store.Click the link to visit my ebay store. ---------> https://www.ebay.com/str/goodasanybetternsome***************************************************************Y O U R Q U E S T I O N S I M A G I N E D & A N S W E R E D****************************************************** ******** M y G r a d i n g M e t h o d f o r 7 8 r p m R e c o r d s : Grades assigned to 78's shouldn't be confusing, but some confusion exists. The Goldmine Magazine grading system is commonly used for LPs and 45's, but the Vintage Jazz Mart Magazine (VJM) grading system is commonly used for 78's. Buyers accustomed to VJM grading might mistakenly interpret Goldmine grades for 78s in an unfairly negative way. VJM grades tend to give a more positive impression than corresponding Goldmine grades. I make use of both grading systems. The reason I use both systems is because Ebay only allows Goldmine grading values for "item specifics". Since many 78 buyers expect VJM grades, I also include a VJM grade in comments along with the corresponding Goldmine grade in the Ebay item specifics. I use Goldmine grading for sleeves. I always add descriptive comments that hopefully make the condition more clear. COMMENTS IN THE DESCRIPTION ARE A PART OF THE GRADE. Buyers should be able to make informed decisions based on the letter grade, comments, photos and sound samples (if provided). THE GRADE LISTED IN THE "ITEM SPECIFICS" SECTION IS THE GOLDMINE/EBAY GRADE. THE VJM GRADE IS SHOWN IN DESCRIPTION AND CONDITION NOTES ONLY. Record grading is heavily reliant on physical appearance, but also takes the sound of the record into consideration. That is why I play-test all 78s before assigning a final grade. (If no play-test was done, then the visual-only grade should be considered provisional, not final.) The play-test can slightly raise or lower the grade derived by visual inspection. For instance, a record might look E- but sound E+ and end up graded E. Some level of general background record surface noise is expected with 78s even when surfaces look really good. General background record surface noise only lowers a grade if it seems excessive for the visual condition. I always comment on the level of background surface noise heard during my play tests. Record label condition is also noted and can, but doesn't necessarily, affect grade. The VJM record grading System vs. The Goldmine record grading system (This is my interpretation / adaptation of the guidelines. The attempt at mapping VJM grades to Goldmine grades is my own and is probably not perfect.) N (VJM) vs. M (Goldmine). New and unplayed (rarely used since it is next to impossible to assert "unplayed" for unsealed records). N- (VJM) vs. NM or M- (Goldmine). Looks very close to perfect, but may have been played. Signs of wear or damage are negligible. Any extremely small imperfections should be noted. E+ (VJM) vs. EX (Goldmine). Looks and plays extremely well with only light signs of handling and light wear. There may be very light, superficial scuffs / marks. Record surface noise is typically negligible but may be reasonably mild if noted. E (VJM) vs. VG+ (Goldmine). Glossy with mostly insignificant signs of wear like light surface scuffs or small blemishes whose effect on play is minimal. Small blemishes, such as a tiny shellac pimple, that might be heard for a few revolutions could exist but usually will be noted. E- (VJM) vs. VG (Goldmine). E- represents a higher end average grade for a 78. Retains some shine but may have a more significant covering of light surface scuffs and a few light scratches. Record surface noise is more noticeable but the record plays fine and the music can be enjoyed. V+ (VJM) vs. VG- (Goldmine). V+ represents a lower end average grade for a 78. Scuffs, light scratches and general use has dulled the finish somewhat. Wear is moderate to mildly heavy. Distortion and distractions while playing are not overwhelming. Surface noise is heard but the music is not buried by it. Still, no skips or repeats during play. V (VJM) vs. G+ (Goldmine). Moderately heavy wear, but still very playable. Surface noise and scratches are more audible, possibly competing with the music levels, but not overtaking them. V- (VJM) vs. G (Goldmine). Quite playable still, but distortion and heavy greying may be evident especially in louder passages. Surface noise and scratches may be quite loud, competing with the music for attention, but the music can still be heard well enough to be enjoyed. The listener may be required to tolerate heavier surface noise. G+, G-, G (VJM) vs. G- (Goldmine). Different degrees of a grade for records with thoroughly dulled surfaces and probably lots of scuffs and scratches. Can still be played without skips or sticks. 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Price: 12.8 USD
Location: Oil City, Pennsylvania
End Time: 2025-01-19T23:54:50.000Z
Shipping Cost: 8.88 USD
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All returns accepted: ReturnsNotAccepted
Artist: Atlantic Dance Orchestra, Karlan's Melodists
Record Label: Edison Record
Occasion: All Occasions
Case Type: Heavy white paper sleeve
Custom Bundle: No
Vinyl Matrix Number: 8843-C-2-5 and 8839-C-5-4
Inlay Condition: Excellent (EX)
Record Grading: Very Good (VG)
Format: Record
Release Year: 1923
Language: Human
Record Size: 10"
Style: 1920s
Features: x
Number of Audio Channels: .
Speed: 78 RPM
Release Title: Saw Mill River Road / You Tell Her - I Stutter
Color: Black Record
Material: Shellac
Catalog Number: 51137
Edition: .
Type: Single
Sleeve Grading: Excellent (EX)
Era: 1920s
Instrument: x
Genre: Pop
Country/Region of Manufacture: United States